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The Way I See It or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Family Dollar pt. 2

  In the last post I responded to some of the concerns and misconceptions surrounding the issue of Family Dollar moving into our neighborhood.  Now I’d like to go into my background and show you why I’m concerned for our future.
  I grew up in Clair Mel, an ethnically diverse, working class community east of Tampa. After graduating from Brandon Sr. High School (disclaimer- I met Doug Carter at this time when he was an intern in a friend’s class) I moved to Ybor City. Drawn By the art and music scene and the open minded and optimistic vibe, I made a home.
  Ybor City in 1990 was a very different place. There were more abandoned buildings on 7th ave. than businesses. The rents were cheap which gave the residents a lot of free time to create. Everyone knew each other and there was a real small town feel. You could sit on a bench in the old courtyard where Centro Ybor stands now and just watch the world go by. We had punk clubs and late night skate sessions and Jamaican food and coffee shops and art and music and the world was ours.
  We also had a great mix of small businesses serving the community and the rest of Tampa. Poetry slams and film nights at Three Birds bookstore, hippy and punk gear at Sweet Charity, hip fashion  at Blue Funk or vintage stuff at La France and Uptown Threads, seeing bands at the Rainbow or the Star Club, A drink at Rough Riders, Reverend Ralph at Carmines, Dave Ware at the Emerald, Louis Clark everywhere, Ybor Pizza, Cephas’ Hot Shop, the Blues Ship, Dog Eat Dog, the smell of roasting coffee and baking Cuban bread… I could go on for pages and each of those memories is attached to a business and the people who built it.
  These businesses were a vital part of the community we had. These were well meaning folks who just wanted to make the neighborhood shine and make a living. They started working together to promote and build our neighborhood. Their efforts paid off. Soon Ybor’s economy was picking up which was great because it meant more options and employment for the locals. Boarded up windows were soon filled with stock and hip, young people started coming down to shop, eat, drink, and dance. Shops began to stay open on Friday and Saturday nights to cater to the new crowds. There was a vintage season- it couldn’t have been more than six months but it seems like it was years- where everything was perfect.
   Then the carpetbaggers rolled in.
  Investors from out of town with lots of money and different plans than we had came sniffing and found something they really wanted. Buildings started getting bought and renovated or just sat on till the time was right. At first it was just the empty buildings getting renovated and everyone thought it was great because shiny new shops with shiny new tenants would bring shiny new customers. Of course there were concerns for keeping the historic esthetic of the area intact but the Barrio Latino board was there for just that purpose. All they had to do was focus on the customers and everything would be fine.
  Of course at this time with all the new people on the streets crime began to rise. In the old days crime was pretty low for residents. Everyone was poor and muggings just weren’t worth it. The new crowds brought criminals who couldn’t tell a local from a tourist and didn’t care. We went from having two beat cops who knew everyone by name and were considered friends to having many anonymous uniforms who couldn’t tell the locals from the tourists and didn’t care, either. Shops used to having a few customers at a time suddenly were packed and losses from shoplifting went up. Some shops began to close on Friday and Saturday nights because the losses were so bad.
  Soon the original landlords decided to jump on the gravy train and commercial rents began to rise. A few of the old local businesses couldn’t hack it and relocated or folded. Soon the real estate investors started renovating occupied buildings and more businesses were lost. The businesses coming in to replace them couldn’t afford to gamble on niche markets or catering to the bohemians. They either went to higher-end art and retail shops or they chased the lowest common denominator and opened bars and club. The City Council was more than happy to oblige and installed a wet zoning vending machine in the foyer outside their chambers. The new higher stakes meant that business owners could buy anything. Soon even the historic esthetic was for sale and men with deep pockets opened architectural monstrosities like Frankie’s Patio and the ugly apartments near the freeway.
  Now I could hear the ‘bump…bump…bump…’ from the clubs in my bedroom on 4th Ave. People would park in front of our house and block us in or out constantly. One neighbor had a window broken by a drunk who came back and found his car towed. I had vomit on my stoop and fights breaking out on my side walk way too often.
  In spite of the newly increased crime and chaos residential property was in demand. We were notified, along with everyone on the block, that our landlord was going to renovate our houses and we had to move. My neighbors were mostly elderly black folks who had been living there for years. They all knew each other and sat out on the stoops talking and joking most every night. Now I watched them load their possessions into trucks and leave. I know my immediate neighbor Smiley and Miss Essie from a few doors down ended up spending their remaining years in public housing- proud, retired workers who had always paid their own way pushed aside so hipsters could have cute restored shotgun shacks.
  This broke my heart because I realized that I had played a part in it. While we were so busy creating our cool little business corridor we never thought of how it would affect our neighbors a few blocks over. They didn’t go to punk shows or hang out in coffee shops and they couldn’t afford some of the new restaurants or the clothes in the boutiques. No one included them in the process and no one was there to see them leave but me. These folks didn’t complain and welcomed us when we moved in and now they had lost their homes.
   Of course we lost our home too. Since Ybor had become unaffordable we followed some of our fellow refugees and moved to Seminole Heights. While it lacked the urban vibe and the community we were used to, it was quiet and the rents were low.  While I’ve never found another community like my old Ybor City, maybe I haven’t looked. When you lose something like that you don’t want to chance losing it again. I’ve made a home in Seminole Heights and I’m surrounded by neighbors I like and friends close by and that’s enough.
  I did a large job in Ybor recently that required some over night work. I was horrified to see 7th Ave. at 3am on a Friday night. It was an unrecognizable mad house of drunken sex and violence. I stood there with my partner, an old Ybor resident, and it was surreal remembering how it was and seeing it how it is. I know that Ybor and Seminole Heights are two completely different places and we lack the infrastructure that made Ybor possible, but we do have the potential to destroy what makes our neighborhood special.
  It doesn’t take much imagination to see several of our larger commercial spaces turning into night clubs or large bars; to imagine investors buying our real estate and raising the rents; to see traffic, noise, and crime increasing; to find businesses we like disappear because they can’t compete with the new market they helped create. Is it that hard to imagine that it could happen here? It will happen here if we don’t speak up. It will happen here if we don’t work together. It will happen here if we don’t plan the future of Seminole Heights very carefully. It will happen here if we let a few business owners goad us into fighting their battles for them.
  Let me leave you with this from the Greater Seminole Heights Vision Plan from the City of Tampa’s Land Development Coordination department of the Growth Management and Development Services office from 2009. The city worked with neighborhood and business leaders to draft this plan of action for the sane development of Seminole Heights. It’s not poetry but see if it matches the ‘vision’ of the monoculture entertainment district being developed now-


GUIDING PRINCIPLES
- Urban Form/Mixed Use Development (i.e.Commercial Redevelopment)


o Focus on the maximization of uses/intensities along the identified commercial/mixed use corridors, including establishment of key intersections as community and/or neighborhood activity centers


o Foster the development of mixed use projects including the integration of neighborhood serving uses


o Ensure the sensitive transition of uses from the core commercial areas into the surrounding stable neighborhoods


o ‘Incentivize’ the transition of single use corridors to mixed use/community-neighborhood serving uses
 

Chuck Stephens

8:00 pm on Sunday, August 19, 2012

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Chuck Stephens

9:50 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Well, I posted a link to these articles on the NFD FB page and it got deleted. I guess they don't like debate or openness. It appears they also disabled public comments. Way to represent the majority, guys. Join the cause that's unafraid of different opinions- www.facebook.com/shredseminoleheights

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jess b

12:26 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

btw... I don't believe the NFD pages were intended to be debate sites. Sole purpose as I understood it was to serve as a central point to get updates and get contact information for those who want to help oppose FD. That was made clear early on. NFD wasn't about discussing pros & cons, especially with the sale of the property just days away.
NFD and its sites were strictly in place to resist FD. . period. .
Debates? Not on NFD and why expect that? Goal=No FD.
...therefore with a unified goal, regardless of individual motives, No debate needed.
- like a Command center on a battlefield that had limited time and resources... so squandering those to entertain a debate?
Besides, having too many debate sites was getting distracting, lose track of what point was posted where, trying to catch up after work was bad enough with 2 sites each having multiple threads... too many fronts without sufficient manpower.
Patch and Blue are available for multiple discussions and welcome the traffic/hits that generate...
NFD was abundantly clear about it's focus so it's not fair to presume that NFD was hosting a debate site. It isn't.

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Greg Baker

9:07 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Chuck,
I don't want to see the neighborhood go the way of Ybor, either. I watched it grow into something awesome from the mid-80's to early 90's. I moved away for several years and was disgusted with what I saw when I moved back.
That being said, I also see the stretch of Florida avenue as one of the last places in Tampa that has, until the last few months, remained free of corporate control. Hopefully one can see that neither is a desirable environment to live or work.
I've lived in areas where neighborhood revitalization was done well, bringing mixed use business to the business corridor -, and I've lived in areas where it has been done poorly - with corporations steam rolling neighborhoods and turning the community business corridor into a race track, filled with non-pedestrian accessible, run down buildings.
Unfortunately, Tampa has always done it poorly. Visual evidence is available all over the city of the 'build it up-let it rot' mentality. I don't think that either of us want either of the two situations that I mentioned. My strong, vocal opposition has not been of the 'elitist' nature that's been thrown around in this issue, but rather of the nature that I don't wish to see this area turn into yet another corporate wasteland.
Somewhere in the middle of these two scenarios lies the best case for this neighborhood to thrive.
-btw I have no affiliation with the NFD page.

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Chuck Stephens

4:24 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Wow Greg, I'm glad you're finally here. Let me start off by saying that of all the newer businesses in Seminole Heights, I have a lot of respect for yours. You put your money where your mouth is and by supporting local growers and 'slow food' you offer solutions, not just complaints. I've watched the development of your restaurant and read your interviews and hoped that more folks like you would come here to invest in our neighborhood. I even applied with you shortly after you opened because I respected your approach. Any vitriol tossed your way has been due to the taint of your association with Veronica Villines.
I think her primary concern here is the threat to her parking situation- something that should have never been an issue to start with. This wasn't her first rodeo. She should have taken care of that from the start with a permanent solution, not a stop-gap measure. Several of the complaints directed at FD could just as easily be directed at her business. FD will cause parking problems and bring more traffic, they are cutting corners to reduce opening costs, they don't serve the residents of SH, they will bring folks from outside the area who don't match the demographic of our neighborhood, they offer low wages and no benefits, etc. Those who live in glass houses...

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Chuck Stephens

4:26 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

continued...

One of my biggest fears is the talk of making Seminole Heights a 'destination'. I don't see how this benefits anyone but the businesses. I'm also concerned that this will encourage a hipster monoculture. Just like a farm that only grows one crop, this focus on the young, hip demographic has plenty of pitfalls and risks. The Greater Seminole Heights Vision Plan stresses the development of commercial use that will benefit the community, increase pedestrian accessibility, and preserve the character of our neighborhood. Most people enjoy a nice dinner now and then, but do obscure beers, fixie bikes, anti-populist record stores, or vintage shops serve the majority of the residents or just a small percentage? I have no hate for them and I wish them well, but when they start to talk of their vision for our neighborhood I get a little nervous. As I've said before, the only age group that didn't decline in our neighborhood between 2000 and 2010 is the 55-64yo demographic. They increased by 41.7%! How does the fixation on 'young' hip' customers serve the fastest growing segment of our local population?

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Chuck Stephens

4:27 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

continued some more...

The NFD crowd seems to be the perfect example of politics making for strange bedfellows. It is a grab-bag issue that has something for everyone. They have anti-corporate liberals, frightened home owners concerned with property values, business owners with money riding on the outcome, out of touch soccer moms, and a few elitists, snobs, and down right bigots. It's a large group of small minorities, often with diametrically opposed views and goals, none of which actally represent a majority on their own. All they seem concerned with is getting more 'likes' on their FB page. When one of their number makes an elitist or racist statement, or even just says something that isn't true, no one in their crowd has the guts to stand up and call them on it. If someone from the 'other side' calls them on it they berate, insult, ignore, or just delete their post. Greg- are these really the folks we want representing our neighborhood or making decisions for us? These people are fighting for you- do the ends justify the means?

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Chuck Stephens

4:35 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

and a wee bit more...

You are the only business owner who has reached out to me directly and I appreciate that. I've seen few of the business owner in the various thread debating this issue which makes me question their role as 'neighbors'. If they are unwilling to take part in the discussion why should we consider their position or believe their 'commitment' to our interests? Aside from a few folks interested in finding a real solution, most of the NFD crowd has been condescending, dismissive, arrogant, or rude. This does not represent the neighborhood I want to live in. The nature of the comments on Patch and the NFD FB page was what got me into this to begin with. This is not about FD. It's about giving everyone a voice in a fair and open forum, something the NFD crowd has failed at miserably.
This is a very polarizing issue. Even my house is divided on it. My wife doesn't see the point in fighting something that's a done deal anyway and worries about the social ramifications of my involvement. I'm a professional contrarian who never out grew the ideals of my punk rock youth and feels compelled to speak truth to power. No matter what, we are all going to continue to be neighbors and your courtesy and desire to find a inclusive solution makes me glad to include you in that group.

joe julius

9:36 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Is it just me or do we seem to be attracting too many free standing bars? I thought our goals were more of a soho (S Howard Ave) with a good mix of retail, coffee houses, and especially restaurants and not more of the 7th Ave in Ybor city trend. I personally don't want another Ybor City party district in my own back yard.... is it just me or should I sell now and move to south Tampa? We should choose wisely on our direction....
If too many rules have to be broken, overlooked, or bent in order to open a bar, maybe it's not a good location for a bar (the red star rock bar) .... no parking (empty lot belongs to state and the state should not show favoritism to a single owner esp a business that will encourage drinking and driving which they are so against, besides it they are offering use of the land for free, I know someone who would love to open a garden center there…), I'm sure fire codes and other issues are not to code for a bar in that location....

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joe julius

9:37 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Seems like most of these owners, ie Ybor city, don’t live in the area, so they don’t have to deal with the problems they create. They just come for the money and leave us to deal with the headaches. If I wanted to live in a neighborhood like Ybor City, I would have bought there…
NAPA, Family Dollar, Salem’s Gyros, and we are different from the other ghettos how? If everyone wants another 7th ave party zone, I guess I could find a nice drug dealer, stripper, or hoochie mama to sell / rent my house to, that way which ever one lives in it could walk to work on Florida Ave....

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joe julius

9:38 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Please send me feed back on the above, I would like to know if I stand alone on this before I go to the zoning hearing to oppose the red star and other ‘bar only’ businesses moving into the Seminole Heights area.... (restaurants that serve liquor I'm cool with, bars that only offer drunks until the wee hours of the night I am not.) To see what I mean, drive down S Howard Ave on a fri or sat between 10pm and midnight, then drive down 7th ave (if you can) during the same time frame..... I really hate to see beloved Seminole Heights go the way of 7th ave (Ybor City party district).

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Chuck Stephens

12:50 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Amen Joe- Focusing on developing our area as an entertainment/bar destination will destroy our neighborhood quicker than any discount store. This is one of the main factors that got me involved with the Family Dollar issue. Most folks only see the short term effects which are awesome- more options, more money being spent and made, newer, prettier businesses, a faux bohemian vibe. They don't see the drunks, higher rents and taxes, or the noise and traffic problems until it's too late.

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