As many of you are aware, I have been commenting about this
issue on various sites since my family and I read the August 3rd
Tampa Bay Times article about the Refinery meeting and felt embarrassed to live
in Seminole Heights. My main point has been that, though well-meant, this
movement reflects poorly on our community. Though not the intention, the No
Family Dollar movement looks elitist at best.
I have made this point in various ways. No Family Dollar,
though numbering over 700 according to the Facebook page, very likely includes
few of the actual residents of the area where the Family Dollar is proposed. Is
it possible that many of those neighbors could experience an improvement in
their quality of life with the addition of a walkable retail store meeting
their economic needs? If the answer is yes, I am certain that it matters to
you. Even the NFD folks living near the site that aren’t part of the Family Dollar
demographic, would benefit from the ability to pop in on occasion and buy name-brand products that they already purchase from a more distant location. See for yourself. They sell items that you use. It’s a retail store, not a strip club.
Some say that they oppose Family dollar because it is an out-of-state chain that will take profits out of the neighborhood, evict existing businesses, eliminate existing employment and replace it with part time low wage no benefit jobs, increase traffic and not fit the neighborhood aesthetic. There are out-of-state chains ticking all of the same so-called negative boxes as Family Dollar that would be welcomed to the location, whether Trader Joe’s or whatever chain you currently utilize elsewhere or hope to shop at. Furthermore, some of the local businesses currently in that area meet some or all of those criticisms. Thus, the problem with Family Dollar isn’t the above issues, it seems be the negative perception you have of FD and FD customers.
Another “Big Idea” promoted by No Family Dollar is the importance of supporting local independent businesses, a fine goal. Therefore, I am certain that you support the only established full-service independent grocery store in Seminole Heights, Mega Supermarket on Nebraska Avenue. My family doesn’t shop there but we also do not use “Local and Independent Uber Alles” as a reason to keep out a legitimate business. We do occasionally shop at the Family Dollar next to it, though.
My family watched the recent ABC Action News piece by Brendan McLaughlin. We found it to be excellent journalism. The stark contrast between the two local business owners clarified the issues at play. I quote ABC Action News:
"Record store owner Keith Ulrey says a big box national chain is just not a good fit. “An art space, retail establishment, t-shirt screening, anything, something that's more in the vibe and aesthetic of the neighborhood and what we're trying to establish from here on down to the corner," said Ulrey."
"Not everyone has joined the opposition. Long-timeresident and auto repair shop owner, Ruben Jimes thinks a dollar store would be, convenient for him and good for his business. "It's good. It's good for the neighborhood. Maybe they could see my sign over here and bring some business in," said Jimes."
According to start.cortera.com, Rubens Auto Repair was founded in 1992. Much respect to Mr. Jimes for 20 years of success with his small business. I am certain that we all wish him continued success, as we do Mr. Ulrey and all of their neighbor businesses.
Both local independent business owners featured have the same vision, one of neighbor businesses that benefit one another. Only Mr. Jimes sees Family Dollar as fitting into this shared goal. I am confident that Mr. Ulrey and everyone in support of No Family Dollar hope to see Mr. Ulrey’s vision of “what we're trying to establish from here on down to the corner” come to fruition and that they also wish continued success for Rubens Auto Repair. The problem is that if Florida Avenue is established “down to the corner”, Mr. Jimes’ shop would no longer exist. The property would become “an art space, retail establishment, t-shirt screening, anything, something that's more in the vibe and aesthetic of the neighborhood”.
The Law of Averages says that one or two of you are friends of mine and that I am acquainted with a few more. We certainly have things in common. As I compose this, I’m swinging on my front porch, dogs at my feet, looking out at my Grandfather oak-covered front garden, drinking a Southern Tier 2XIPA, and listening to first wave ska. I think that Keith Ulrey is someone that I used to know and I have kept aware of the Ulrey’s various bands. I will be greatly embarrassed if I am wrong but over 20 years ago, we got a room at a Sabal Park hotel with 2 other guys because we heard U2 were staying there. We never saw them but we had a blast watching Home Shopping Channel most of the night. The Bakers and I have crossed paths due to mutual acquaintances. The first time we met, though, was back before the Refinery when they had the Culinary Sherpas column and catered. We were sitting at the outside bar at Tampa Bay Brewing Co. I was, as usual, nursing my mug and working crosswords while they were planning a Thanksgiving catering menu. They asked me for ideas from my family’s tradition. Then we got to chatting about music and had a nice hour or so. But I digress. My point is that you are all good people wanting the best for our neighborhood and I am not a total jerk. I don't expect you to suddenly think that I am the greatest guy ever, just that I am not the Devil.
Deciding what to have for breakfast is simple. It doesn’t require much thought because there are few, if any, unintended consequences. Neighborhood revitalization, gentrification, what have you, is complex because of the numerous unintended consequences. Rubens Auto Repair closing down would be an example. Microgroove Records (or any of the other newer businesses) closing down would be another. You don’t think that could happen? I’d bet that Cindy Wheeler didn’t expect Three Birds Bookstore to close down so quickly, either. My wife and I miss that place, especially the poetry slams. I still have the Keith Haring print book that I bought the last day they were open. Tom Roe probably thought that Blue Chair Music would be around longer, too. It was a great place to hang out, peruse the racks and talk music. So much was going on, what could happen? The independent businesses and residents had a vision for Ybor City’s revitalization, one of businesses “in the vibe and aesthetic of the neighborhood”. We all know how that turned out. Three Birds and Blue Chair opened around 1992 and by 1996 they were gone, along with most everything else that fit that vibe.
I know that there was more to it than that, an example being the major role of city officials. I also know that much was learned and some policies have changed but it all started with some earnest folks with a big idea to make a really cool neighborhood. Once it’s clear that there is money to be made on that stretch of Florida Avenue, developers, carpetbaggers with no interest in the residents, will start sniffing around and buying property to get in on a perceived gravy train. One of the many ironies at play is the very idea of what you think Family Dollar represents will likely help to keep the area a neighborhood rather than become a destination, a la 7th Avenue in Ybor. It is a “retail establishment” that will aid in anchoring the local neighborhood just as Cappy's is the local pizza joint.
You could quibble with my Ybor analogy and fair enough. But why can’t Florida Avenue from Microgroove on down to the corner have The Refinery, Cleanse Apothecary, Cappy’s Pizza, Rubens Auto Repair, J D Smith Exterminators, Family Dollar and whatever other businesses that a true neighborhood requires? Can’t Some of the world’s best beer coexist alongside everyday goods? The promise of everyone working together, both old comers and newcomers, to build a vibrant and lasting neighborhood, isn’t that what we all want? I don’t presume to have all of the answers (though I do ask a lot of questions). I do know that many of us don't seem to be considering how all of our neighbors could be affected by this situation. Not because we don’t care but because we are likely not aware of these consequences. None of us wish ill on any of our neighbors.
Thank you for reading.

Chuck Stephens
2:49 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
This issue has forced me to do something I swore I'd never do- start a Facebook page. Seminole Heights Residents for Equality and Discourse (www.facebook.com/shredseminoleheights) is there to offer a balanced reply to the No Family Dollar movement and to resist any initiative that puts the interests of business and profit above the interests of the residents of our neighborhood. The page is sparse right now but it will be full of info soon. Go there and download our flyer and let them know how you feel. Our neighborhood is awesome- let's keep it that way!
Michelle Arnold
5:19 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
I've kept fairly quiet regarding this issue until today. For me, this boils down to the best long-term interests of my family and those of my neighbors in Seminole Heights. The stark economic reality is this: Big box corporations decrease property values. They take 70-100% oftheir clientele from surrounding local business and result in dragging down or keeping down areas that are economically depressed. Period. Family Dollar stores are, for the most part, an abomination on communities they plague. I, for one, am not willing to stand idly by and watch my hard-earned dollars go down the drain as my bungalow drops in value while I bust ass to pay it off. If a few local business owners and home owners are spear-heading a movement to prevent that from happening, more power to them.
Doug Carter
6:15 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Best long term interests of your neighbors in Seminole Heights. Do you mean everyone that lives in the entire Seminole Heights area or those neighbors that live in the area of SH that you call home? They aren't the same group of folks.
Chuck Stephens
7:43 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
How will FD take 70-100% of their business from local business? Do they sell vintage clothes, records, fancy dog biscuits, or aromatherapy candles? Tell me this- what new business doesn't take trade away from another business when they open? Do they make customers from scratch in the back room? This is called a free market and it's one of the foundations of our society. Do you think Cappy's customers had never tasted pizza before they opened?
I'm glad that you finally admit in your last sentence that '...a few local business owners and home owners are spear-heading...' the NFD movement. Your candor is appreciated.
Now how about you answer the big question from earlier- How does FD affect your safety or quality of life when you're out and about? I'd honestly appreciate the courtesy of an answer. I think that as your straw men fall to the side that answer will reveal your real motivation.
Joe Positive
6:19 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Doug, you keep claiming that people who live in the area around this proposed newest Family Dollar actually want the store there. Here's one who doesn't.
Doug Carter
6:22 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Mr. "Positive", I couldn't find you in the directory or Google to check your address. Not one Joe Positive in all of tampa.
phil
9:12 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
I heard from good source today the reason the property owner didn't talk with the new group trying to buy the building is another group has entered the scene. Seems a large used card lot on N. FL in SH wants the building ( they are out of space) and they have the cash.
This could be a bidding war!
So which would be better a nice car lot or a Dollar Store?
Also what small business in the area sells all that crap the dollar store sells?
"They take 70-100% oftheir clientele from surrounding local business and result in dragging down or keeping down areas that are economically depressed."
Randy Wynne
9:19 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
I live on Seminole Avenue three blocks from the proposed Family Dollar. I have lived in my house for 25 years. Family Dollar, an unattractive, poorly maintained box store is not a good addition to the neighborhood.
Chuck Stephens
7:14 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Says a man with a very secure job that he's had forever and therefor never has to walk anywhere just to get the basic things he needs. I'm not attacking you, Randy. I just really want you to realize that the views of the NFD movement are not reflective of the community as a whole. I know the word 'community' means something to you. Don't punish the disenfrachised residents of our neighborhood in the name of fighting evil corporations. I understand the urge to resist yet another big corporation coming to our neighborhood, but until we have better systems in place people still rely on them to provide goods at a cheaper price.
The NFD movement is doing a great job of publicizing their issue and getting media attention. They primarily use Facebook to organize and communicate. Is there an NFD Myspace page? There is a huge socio-economic divide between the two. From what I've seen there is a large percentage of white, middle to upper middle class residents represented. Does that really represent our community?
Doug Carter
7:37 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Mr. Wynne, You must mean "not a good addition to the neighborhood that I WISH FOR". There are some nice buildings on that stretch of FL Av. but most of it is chain link fences, asphalt and "unattractive, poorly maintained" buildings, including the one that the Family Dollar will replace. The Family Dollar will be NEW construction. If it is not maintained to your satisfaction, then you could organize a Facebook group to address the issue.
Doug Carter
9:33 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Mr. Wynne, on the NFD FB page you posted, "The important sentence in Brendan McLaughlin's report is,"A nearby Family Dollar store at Columbus and Tampa Street was new just six years ago and now has peeling paint, litter and a pothole- filled parking lot."
You found it more important than, "It's good. It's good for the neighborhood. Maybe they could see my sign over here and bring some business in," said Jimes.
Are your priorities not with your neighbors, sir?
Bob P
9:13 am on Monday, August 13, 2012
Run down and poorly maintained is a reflection of the neighborhood and its residents. Are those NFD saying that this neighborhood has residents that show a lack of respect such as the neighborhood near Hanna and Nebraska where homeless people going to "The Shop" of MHC congregate. This business is going to look as run down as we let it get. The only stores they would compete with in selling like merchandise is Circle K and Save-A-Lot. I appreciate two Family Dollar stores being within walking distance of my house near Nebraska and Hills. even though I have two vehicles. It makes me think, I can walk to the store for a few items I need on the spur of the moment. I want to feel safe enough to do so. I understand by Baynews9 that the two tenants already have a place to move to within the neighborhood. No loss of those businesses and it says something about our neighborhood and how it can work together.
Mark S. Hankins
3:51 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Family Dollar recently announced plans to begin selling cigarettes. Seems the wrong direction to go, corporate-responsibility wise. Fight 'em on that grounds too.
Chuck Stephens
7:00 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
That's the straw you guys are grasping at now?!? How many of the businesses on Florida Avenue sell alcohol? I don't mean retail establishments- I mean bars and restaurants where customers drive cars to get there and leave. FD has been accused of posing a potential threat to our safety and an increase in traffic. How much safer are we with people leaving bars late at night and driving through our neighborhood? Are you really going to tell me that a store selling cigarettes is more of a threat than a bar? What if it was an upscale cigar bar? Would you pound your chest with moral outrage at that? The excuses from the NFD junta keep getting weaker and weaker. If you can't see the corner it's because you're backed into it.
phil
4:07 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Are they legal to sell? Does Publix sell tobacco products? Let's run them out of the hood too. Also do they smoke at the Indy?
Tom Roe
2:31 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012
Randy wynne, why not stop keeping young people not playing folk music off the radio and let the dollar store in. It provides cheap products for people on limited budgets. I shop at the one near my house. It will help complete the neighborhood.
Doug Carter
5:20 pm on Sunday, August 19, 2012
I must say that I find the lack of commentary from the NFD gang to be quite telling. Particularly the section about Brendan McLaughlin's piece (Mr. Jimes and "down to the corner") and the finalparagraph (sound reasonable?). Any response, Shawn Hicks, Cara Greenblatt Davis or any of the other big voices? Can't some of the world's best beer coexist alongside everyday goods and everyday neighbors?